Tuesday, 1 July 2008

Here's how it started...

To Speak it all started way back in 2003... or rather stopped at 2004 even... because i never knew what to do with it... its originally posted on website "http://indopakunity.faithweb.com/disc2_frm.htm" .... following posts you may find are those which are present in website... but i feel it is better place for this... ( i never knew wat blogging was when i did this though)...

Sunday, 1 June 2008

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... here is my first write on this...
WELCOME
This is an on-line discussion forum called INDO-PAKISTAN UNIFICATION.
You may think I am crazy even to make such a web page but tell me why isn't that possible? we were divided due to hatred between two groups sitting above us pretending to be representatives of millions of people. They changed the fate of various families whose happiness lied in there children, there friends but not in being called Indian or Pakistani. If Germans can unite themselves by breaking the Berlin wall why can't we by break the the wall of religious hatred, brought up by the of British empire, which is far more weaker than the power of unity which even did break the chains of British Hold over us. [more]
I am not saying that this is possible in next few years, but at least we can try for it. I have dream of unification, if not of our country, but at least of our ourselves, our achievements, our happiness, our difficulties, our souls because we belong to the continent & civilization cultivated by our ancestors who didn't even ever had nightmare involving the partition of Indian Sub-Continent into various pieces whether it is Bangladesh, India or Pakistan. All I have to say is that I a proud of my past & will thrive to make future of which next generation will be proud of. I want everyone whether an Indian or Pakistani living abroad or in there own country, to post there views in favor of me or against me so that I can review them, to put my idea more strongly next time I write my article, so you are the one who an help me on this, so think about it....

INDO-PAKISTAN UNIFICATION

INDO-PAKISTAN UNIFICATION
It was during Independence Day when I watched a incredibly depressing story of India-Pakistan Partition. It makes my heart cry observing so many hatred, killings, misery of people from both sides of the border, a line of hatred drawn right in the middle of the heart of nation which led to bleeding of various innocent citizens. You tell me was that right to decide the fate of millions of citizens by hand full of leaders who claim to be representatives of those thousands & millions of people. They were self proclaimed leader, they weren't elected representatives, now days even the one elected by us have corruption deep rooted in to them, so how can we believe creators of India & Pakistan. May be situations led to such decisions, but the situations were created by them, they were to be blame for this. Instead they should have taken initiative to educate every one under them of whom they proclaim to be leader & guide, but any thing they guided them into was blood-shed & killings. Here are the some points according to me the reason of such unification please go through them:
Civilization: If you consider the scenario pre independence every one in Indian sub-continent were under one civilization of South East Asia, the place where Moguls ruled, the place where Ashoka reigned, the place where Hindus & Muslims took part in each others festivals. Its the place where rulers like Akbar were proud of both the religions. It was the birth place for various religions, languages, communities. It had made its place in history and is still respected for its past. However, nothing was left after collapse of Indian sub-continent in to various pieces known as nation states which are now fighting each other to prove there might over there own brothers & sisters. If we have anything to be proud of it is our past, the past not cultivated by nuclear powered India or Pakistan, or even countries like Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal or Bhutan, but the Indian sub continent . I have read an interesting article about 'The should be reaction of India after defeat of Pakistan by the hands of Australia' it is written by Vinay Lal & published in "Humanscape" Magazine, Mumbai, September 1999, as "Why Indians Should Have Supported Pakistan in the World Cup Final" [click here to read]

No war, let's heal the subcontinent

No war, let's heal the subcontinent
"If the goal is to smoke out the mouse, it is no good policy to burn the house. Since war begins in the minds of men, peace must be sought and grounded in the soul of men"

I have taken this article from the 'www.thehindu.com' I really liked the article one should sincerely go through this. Its main target the reason behind the hatred between India & Pakistan is it mindset or.....

"SINCE wars begin in the minds of men," so runs the historic UNESCO Preamble, "It is in the minds of men that the defences of peace must be constructed." Wars erupt out when the minds of men are enflamed, when human mind is blinded and wounded, succumbs to frustration and self-negation. War is the transference of this self-negation into the other-negation. The three Indo-Pak wars and the persisting will to terrorise have emanated from this savage instinct of other-negation that is the legacy of the partition carnage and its still-bleeding and unhealed wound. Truncated from its eastern wing in 1971, Pakistan ever since has suffered from a sense of total existential self-negation. Plus the scars left by the two previously lost wars to India and Kargil fill the Army and the Pakistan psyche with a seething urge to revenge that India has to be negated, destroyed — in a deep psychological sense, another Hiroshima in the subcontinent is imaginable and possible. Terrorism in Kashmir springs from such deep negating existential grounds. Like the former Soviet Union, Pakistan came into being as a result of a grand delusion and massive perversion of reality — the so called two-nation theory. Like the former Soviet Union, it stands in danger of crumbling unless it modifies its reality perception and comes to terms with its post-Bangladesh identity within in the prevailing subcontinental equation. Failing this, Pakistan is bound to break up nudging the region to a nuclear nightmare, including possible South Asian Hiroshimas. War phobia With `hot pursuits' and `surgical operations' freely making rounds among the policy elite and the public at large, the national atmosphere looks ominously charged. "On the brink," headlines The Week (Jan. 6) adding, "As men and machines are quickly positioned by India and Pakistan, the threat of war looms real." To which Gen. Musharraf counters, "If any war is thrust on Pakistan, Pakistan's armed forces and the 140 million people of Pakistan are fully prepared to face all consequences with all their might." According to Indian Express, "Pakistan has deployed medium range ballistic missile batteries (MRBBs) along the Line of Control (LoC) near Jammu and Poonch sectors in an action that will further escalate the tension between the two countries." And India's Defence Minister ups the ante, "We could take a (nuclear) strike, survive and then hit back, Pakistan would be finished." (Hindustan Times, December 30, 2001). Mr. Fernandes's formulation is certainly a tactical super shot, even a strategical super hit inasmuch as this is the very logic of India's `No-first-strike' doctrine. The Defence Minister obviously has no idea of the ethical, phenomenological implications of abandoning chunks of the Indian population to ransom for potential Hiroshimas and then `finishing' the neighbouring country of 140 million in what could be nothing short of an Armageddon. Forget these horrendous scenarios. But does this not repudiate the grain of truth for which India's civilisation stood for and vindicated across the untold millennia of its history? Yet, Mr. Fernandes, the pacifist and Gandhian, is no warmonger. As Defence Minister he had to reach at a level the Pakistanis, with their proclivity to drop the nuclear speak whenever that suited them, could have registered the message. If the goal is to smoke out the mouse, it is no good policy to burn the house. Since war begins in the minds of men, peace must be sought and grounded in the soul of men. When peace is thus grounded at the deeper level of the soul a stadium in human historical evolution is reached at which competitive security and sovereignty become cooperative security and cooperative sovereignty in a no-war zone. European Union is the shining example. And since the EU model is extendable and applicable to all other world regions/geopolitical sub-systems, we could even visualise a globally inter-linked no-war zone, which indeed is a post-nuclear `Millennial Global Peace Order'. If this postulate could be applied to the ongoing U.N. Security Council reform process, we will then have an absolutely foolproof `no-war world' in decades. Global Age This is no utopian idealism; this has already happened across the East-West axis of geopolitics, i.e. over the entire northern hemisphere of the planet, the North. It of course began as deathly cold war superpower confrontations, reminiscent only of today's Indo-Pak confrontation. The Berlin Blockade (1949), the Korean War (1951-52), building of the Berlin Wall (1961), the Cuban Missile Crisis (1962), the Vietnam War, could all have shored out into World War III and nuclear inferno, but they were all contained and kept below the nuclear threshold. Russia is today living at peace with its neighbours, with Europe, with America and the entire world, and is in fact today on the way to joining a common NATO security system. The North has virtually become a `con-federated no-war zone' of the dollar, euro, rouble, yen, yuan blocs heralding the Global Age. When the South also emerges as partner to this Global Age, which is inevitable and only a matter of time, we will have a post nuclear Global Peace Order and the post-nuclear civilisational epoch, truly consummating God's plan for earth and humanity. The South is the traditional colonial belt, the equatorial hunger belt, the epicentre of world's already exploding population, the would be catchment base of 95 per cent of the projected near doubling of human species in the Twentyfirst century. Inasmuch as the lion's share of the planet's wealth and resources remain concentrated within the hands of an over-aging and ever-decreasing population of the North, the North feels threatened by the growing southern human avalanche. Thus North wants amputation of this `cancerous growth' and safeguards itself by building up NMDs (national missile defence systems) and BMDs (ballistic missile defence) as the Bush administration is at present pioneering on an emergency basis. We cannot ensure enduring global peace and human survival in the atmosphere of the nuclear and missile race in the subcontinent, in our Asian neighbourhood, above all in a world that has abrogated the CTBT and now also the ABM Treaty. We have to move the Twentyfirst century for a great healing work — a far reaching North-South healing, an Indo-Pakistani healing, an Arab-Israeli healing, the healing of the divided Koreas, the healing of this very uprooted and over-heating planet of ours. When Europe's partition was healed, Europe nay the entire North became a no-war zone. This could happen to the subcontinent when we heal our partition wound. The planet will then be healed. The millennial peace and `no-war world' is definite. New Kashmir approach Pakistan can be redeemed alone in an existential affirmation. In a deep psychological sense this must come from India and from the entire international community. We propose a 2+5 Kashmir Commission in a combination of the Camp David, Oslo, Radcliffe models pointing to a Helsinki process in Asia (a Conference of Security and Cooperation in Asia, CSCA). We uphold the vision of a South Asian Home, parallel to the European Home, bringing about eventually a `Con-federative Remaking of the United Nations' on the foundations not of confronting armies and competitive nuclear doctrines but of Human Unity, the truly realisable psychological unity of the human race as Sri Aurobindo saw. Thus we shall, and we ought to, rewrite the UNESCO preamble thus: "War begins in the minds of men, so it shall be terminated by the minds of men converging as/in the nondual human soul." V.T. PATIL & SRI ASIANANDA Vice Chancellor, Pondicherry University & Professor of Philosophy, IOU (Netherlands)